I'm also interested in the Patriot Cannabis Rex, but the descriptions lead me toward the Governor as being a tad more crunchy. It seems, from a quick look at that pdf, is the watts of handling power is a sum of each speaker either in series or parallel. Easily twice as loud as other speakers at the same power level, the Vintage 30 handles gargantuan overdrive with aplomb. The lows remain tight and you can get just enough high end sparkle in a band situation. Less color and smoother highs. I own the V30 and G12t-75.
All they did was put the speaker on a vibration system for a spell to break them in a bit, slapped their label on them and ship em. While I was still experimenting with the batch of H30s I had, I did try mixing them with M25s in a 4x12. Just enough power handling to let the amp run flat out, too. Celestion determined that their H magnet came closest in performance to Alnico. The result was a very fine loudspeaker, not quite but very close to the sound of an Alnico,with a fatter midrange.
So, I would suggest trying both types of tube power amp sources if you go with these speakers. So who gives a rip, you ask? I do however like the Heritage G12M 20 watter, though they are pretty pricey for a new speaker. It may not have as much clean headroom but should be sweet in most of the volumes I like to play at. Are you saying that the V30 would be a bit more of an ice pick than the g12h90? While I was still experimenting with the batch of H30s I had, I did try mixing them with M25s in a 4x12. Celestion reissued the 65 as part of its Heritage Series of speakers as the model has developed an interesting following by many players.
I use my Class 5 for blues and Classic rock, but the Mini Rec fills any and every modern rock craving and sounds stunning. The G12-65 made its debut in Marshall cabinets in 1979. Great for 80's metal and when you have too much honk in you sound. I joined the opinion of Qillax we read everywhere that hp are great and wonderful and blah blah blah. There's so much talk about the latest Chinese versions not sounding as good as the British made ones. With a strat you can get nice tight Hendrixy rythimic chops. I don't think the G12H30 speaker was ever meant to handle anywhere near that amount of power.
The 25 watt Greenbacks are very unforgiving, as they warn you not to exceed the 25 watt rating on the speaker. I suppose if I got them out into a live venue and did an A-B I could probably hear a difference. They each have a long and dedicated following of loyal users that will tend to prefer one over the other. In very loud amps the greenbacks tend to tame the volume a little more then the V30's. I just really want to know a few things about the latest Celestion speakers.
G12H Family The G12H in its most commonly found form is the 30-watt cousin of the G12M. And trust me - Vintage 30s only get better with time. The Marshall Vintage is a slightly lower not much in db level but has a little lower Fs and is rated at 70 watts when compared to the current Celestion Vintage 30. I didn't like the Mesa V30 that much when I got it, but it has quickly become a favorite. Matchless does it with huge success in their 2x12 and 4x12 cabs.
Anyone know what speakers Jeff had in his Marshall cabs, G12ms or G12Hs? Many love this speaker for just this reason. The Heritiage G12H30 is a very musical speaker with a beautiful clean tone that is not as hifi clanky as a celestion G12T-75. Even without it being fully broken in! I kinda like the Marshall design a little better. The 55Hz are just a little bit thicker sounding. I personally think that V30's really shine in closed back cabinet app's. This is giving me a headache.
Okay, so I wanna sound like Pete Townshend. When playing with the band, try turning the Presence knob up. Some enjoy mixing the speakers. The H30's can get very dark sounding and, I find, loose some definition. I don't disagree with you at all. The amp sounds amazing with the single G12-65 cab alone it can handle the power.